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Nine Reasons Not to Carry Your Baby Facing Out

front facing

This mama looks far from cruel! Still, forward facing is not ideal.

Recently Catherine Fowler of Australia made a comment that parents who face their babies out are “cruel and selfish“.  Actually for the record she said they were “inadvertently cruel”.  I am not here to judge you ladies and gentleman; a walk around the block with your baby in the forward facing position will probably not wreak havoc on your child’s development or health.  I don’t think any parent holding their little ones are cruel.  But when you start to weigh in on whether your baby should maybe change perspectives and face the world head on or not, here are some reasons not to let your baby face out, for your consideration- of course.

Carrying your baby facing out…

1.  Does not support your baby’s legs-

Your baby’s legs should be pulled up to at least hip level if not higher. This is possible only if the fabric in a baby carrier covers the whole back of the thigh, to the backside of the knee, or if the carrier has footstraps.  When your baby is facing forwards with legs unsupported, it isn’t that his legs are simply dangling,  his spine and hips are unsupported to and there is simply nowhere for baby to sit.

Check out this medical research by the International Hip Dysplasia Institute and the infant biomechanics in different types of baby carriers.  A baby carrier that supports the legs encourages proper hip development.  Front facing carriers do not support little hips.  Those babies already diagnosed with DDH should steer clear of front facing carriers.

Choosing an ergonomic carrier that supports the legs  is important for healthy hip development.

Choosing an ergonomic carrier that supports the legs is important for healthy hip development.

2.  Makes it tough for the wearer to carry the baby-

It’s much harder to carry something that curves away from your body than something that embraces your body. The wearer has an awkward load and often ends up arching her back to compensate.  Babies bodies are naturally adapted to being carried facing you.

3. Places your baby in an arched or hollow back position which places pressure on the spine-

unstable baby

With no leg support and facing out this baby is unstable, forcing him to assume a hollow back position (as shown with red line) to compensate.

Extending the back (like arching after waking from a nap), is not injurious or “bad” in and of itself.  The problem arises when you compress a “hollow back” under a load.  Placing an infant in a front facing carrier stretches the naturally convex rounded curve (see infant spinal development in upright transport paper) of his spine into a hollow back position.   With nothing to cling to, weak abdominal muscles, and retracted shoulders, the infant’s pelvis tilts backwards and is forced to not only carry weight of his own body but also to absorb the force of every step that the carrying individual takes- all on his little compromised spine.

3.  Places undue pressure on groin and may chaff the inner thighs of your baby-

pressure on infant pelvis

This baby is leaning on his dad for some extra support. Although it stabilizes him, it is less than ideal to spend the day transported in this position.

Chaffing is no fun.  Being suspended by your baby’s most sensitive parts is not ideal, especially for little boys.

4. May overstimulate your baby-

Babies can face their parents and still experience the world around them and take it in at their own pace.  It is very easy for a small infant to become overwhelmed.

5.  Doesn’t support the head or the neck-

Positional asphyxia is possible when babies have no neck control and their chin falls toward their chests.  Little babies should never be placed in a position that can compromise their airways.  The US Consumer Products Safety Commission recently passed a law that the warning labels of forward facing carriers must state that babies should not face out until adequate head/neck control is achieved. The law does not extend to sleeping infants even though they don’t have control of their necks or heads while snoozing.

6.  Makes thermoregulation more difficult-

The flexed position a baby assumes on his mother’s chest is more efficient at conserving heat than chest exposed. Check out kangaroo care and thermoregulation benefits.  The baby also has more fat cells (insulation) on its back side than front.

7. Makes it harder to respond to baby’s cues-

With no eye contact it is harder to communicate with your baby, check their airways, see their spit up, see them rooting, practice EC, and know their needs.  There’s a neat study that shows that even front facing strollers interfere with your ability to interact with and respond to your baby.

Forward facing not a great option

The mom is holding her son’s legs trying to support them for lack of a seat. He is supported by two pieces of fabric over his groin. If it weren’t for the fabric in front of his shoulders, he would fall forward. Not very supportive.

8.  Throws off the baby’s center of gravity-  Most often the wearer will intuitively stick out her pointer fingers for the baby to grab on to and stabilize himself or the wearer will try to support the baby’s legs by lifting them up in the front. With no seat and nothing to grab on to in front of him it is tough for baby not to arch his back under the weight of his own body.

9.  May not be so wonderful on your back either-

Carrying a load with an arched spine will give you an aching lower back.

Carrying your baby facing forward is not the best option.  It’s not “cruel”, but it’s not ideal either.  Embracing your baby, or having them embrace you (like when you’re backin’ the baby) is what your baby is adapted to do and quite naturally the way to go.



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517 comments
jenni
jenni

I am new to this so i appreciate all the information!

Vikkii
Vikkii

Wow people chill. I wouldn't carry my daughter forward facing but although it's not ideal it's better than not being carried at all.

jc
jc

hipseat baby carrier helps me a lot


Reds
Reds

Once again another biased article.  You may be 100% correct, but you make yourself sound less than credible with your angle.  Try providing current information from both sides when attempting to educate.  ALSO, maybe instead of spending so much time trying to teach/convince others that forward facing is bad, try teaching/convincing others why you believe, or the research (current and peer-reviewed) shows that inward facing carriers like yours are the optimal choice for your child.  I didn't come to this website to hear why OTHER carriers suck, I want to learn about why yours ROCKS.  I guess I just find all this bashing to be less than professional when you could simply promote your own product with positive information about it.  Like mama always used to say "don't put someone else down to make yourself look better."

mammamidwife
mammamidwife

Disagree with all. Mothers and fathers will instinctively know what they and their baby need. The only true risk reason was not mentioned, risk of something inadvertently poking baby in the face.

KimHough
KimHough

get a grip people have been carrying their children like this for years with no health problems just something else to scare unconfident parents with!!!!!

ConnieBusch
ConnieBusch

I would face my kids out in the sling when they got a little bigger , and they loved that. I think they liked feeling like part of what was going on socially, and they could see everything. No pressure on their groin, or their back. 

BootsieMcGee
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I also have to say that everyone on here saying that a baby that is less than a year old has codependency issues. I can tell you that many doctors and psychologists would disagree with you. Babies that are a year and younger need interaction, warmth, closeness and stimulation. You can't spoil a newborn or an infant. It has nothing to do with codependency. You are supposed to react to your baby's cries, that's all part of nature, even monkeys know that for christ sake. How about you all take a damn cue from nature... Some people shouldn't breed.

digthemlows
digthemlows

Are you seroiusly taking it upon yourself to decide who can and cant breed because of opinions..........you are what is wrong with society. Please crawl into a hole and don't push your crap on any of us ever again. You are obviously filled with hate, I hope you don't take that out on your kids.......

k
k

@digthemlows How cute, must have really hit a nerve for you didn't she?

MaddexWalker
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@digthemlows  It's not an opinion, it's fact. There are a ton of people out there who shouldn't have kids. She stated her opinion with that one, no where in her statement did she say she was now going to decide who can or can not reproduce. You sound majorly butthurt.

digthemlows
digthemlows

nah, I'm good...........think it's funny when people decide "you shouldn't breed" ..... like they have some sort of moral superiority or something. I would never say that to someone..........but, apparently having an opinion different than Ms. Bootsie means you aren't good enough to have kids.........hehe, love it

BootsieMcGee
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I use the peanut shell sling, it's great. I always keep baby facing towards me. I don't get why anyone would want baby facing forward, I think it would blow my back out honestly. Plus, I like the cuddles and don't want every weirdo walking down the street trying to touch my baby or go "Googoo blah blah blah!" every time I walk by, it's annoying lol.

sam
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I don't understand.  Can't you just leave them in the kennel when you go out of the house?

BabyRyan2013
BabyRyan2013

This is interesting! We were talking about this in my Anthropology class and how women had to work in the fields for long hours and had to carry their newborns in their back because they had no one to take care of them. I am a new mommy and I have lots to learn. Im just glad to hear so many different opinions of what worked for one mother and what doesn't for another. I will learn from my experiences.

winterpoet13
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I am really disgusted in the way this article has turned out. It's become an argument on co-dependence, etc, and that has nothing to do with the point of the article. 

An infant only has NEEDS, they don't manipulate and trick you. They aren't scheming. It's a BABY with limited brain development. When a baby cries it's because they NEED something. whether it's food, comfort, they're in pain or scared or tired or hot or cold! It's common sense. I'm amazed how many detached and plain ignorant parents can be these days. I just don't get it. How can a society be so brainwashed into believing that infants can be spoiled and need to "learn their boundries". They are INFANTS for goodness sake, not toddlers or children. Babies spend 9 months in the womb and it's rather uneducated to assume they should be able to sleep by themselves, and adjust to life outside of the womb so easily. 

Fact of the matter is there are PLENTY of codependent and incompetent adults whose parents spanked them, didn't co-sleep, and let them cry it out so that entire argument is invalid. Most of the kids that I deal with who misbehave on the regular ARE spanked and their parents have never once co-slept... 

Secondly, babies can't "see their mom too much". What kind of bogus debate is that? In this country many years ago, and in many countries around the world to this day, babies are worn daily and families all co-sleep. It doesn't breed codependent and whiny children, by any means. 

Also, the article gives many reasons why it's a bad idea to baby wear facing out. Does anyone not actually read? It's simple anatomy, really, same reason "crotch-dangling" carriers are a bad idea. As a baby gets older and more curious, high back carries and hip carries are still a lot better for mom and baby than facing out.




ChristineFreeman
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@winterpoet13 you clearly took this article just to make n argument of your own ... which has nothing to do with the points that are made. Why are you attacking this as evidence that society is against co-dependance? Because this article clearly states in many ways, that what is best for the child (not only physically for both mother and child) is nearness. Next time you decide to make a point based on your own values, make sure it's actually in opposition to the counter.

SaraHart
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This is getting silly and I am surprised there are bunch of grown women on here acting like catty teenagers; I had to comment though after reading all of this mis-informatipn on "spoiling" an infant. As someone that has studies infant brain development I can tell you that children under the age of two don't have the brain development capable to manipulate; that takes a high level of reasoning and knowledge of cause and effect which just hasn't developed yet. Further more, studies show that parents that don't feed infants on demand have children that grow to have more eating and behavioral issues because food was used as a means of control instead of them naturally learning when they are hungry and when they are full. That isn't to say you don't set boundaries with older toddlers when it come to other thing such as food choices, toy purchases, and things that aren't in their best interest but limiting their feeding to your schedule is detrimental especially with small infants. Its very sad to me that you would ever think such a small little being is just manipulating you, do some research. 

nrp1978
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I'm so sick of people saying "well i did this with my kids and they are fine." You know that's wonderful, it really is, but the fact that you did something and data/science studies come out that say that thing might be harmful does not a: make you a bad parent nor does it b: mean the study is flawed/wrong/opinion.

For many many years cars were driven without seatbelts, and many many people went through their lives perfectly fine while never wearing one. However no one can dispute seatbelts save way more lives than not wearing one.

Babies are extremely resilient, especially healthy ones, and they can take a lot of bending stretching, bad ergonomics, falling, banging, etc.And do so while coming out perfectly fine. This does not mean in anyway shape or form those activities are safe. Again front face or don't but don't assume that just because your kids turned out fine it's fine for everyone. If you recommend to someone that they front carry and then find out years later that that child has definitive health problems from that how will you feel.

Just remember when studies come out that contradict how you raise your kids it is not a comment on your parenting ability, you are fine, your skills are fine, you are a good parent, just learn from it, and let other people learn from it, because no matter how good a parent you are, you are in no way the end all be all of parenting.

digthemlows
digthemlows

also remember how studies are funded, and how they are almost always biased..........use common sense, and ignore batshit crazy moms on the internet!! I feel really bad that this blog blew up with such nonsense, because I'm sure this particular carrier is great..............so is the Bjorn with my kids facing out too...........so, make your choice by reading all sides.......

MaddexWalker
MaddexWalker

@digthemlows  Are you kidding me? These studies are not biased. Political studies are usually biased, studies on GMO's in foods are usually biased. Even Bjorn itself has said they are not ergonomically correct carriers. Why don't YOU do your own research instead of using your own opinion as means of defending your "point" .

brandyleenealseavoy
brandyleenealseavoy

sorry to say,but my babies are upstanding kids...foward facing,face down sleeping amazing kids...thanks for the warning,but 10 and 6 years too late on the paranoia...They slept in a bassinet next to my side of the bed,my hand resting on them constantly for fear of SIDDS..face foward walking in the sling...guess what..my 10 year old now learned to crawl at 7 months,walk at 9,talk words before 1 year...my now 6 year old faster...crawl at 6 months,walk at 8 and talk bout  a year..full sentence before 16 months....sorry honey.your hypothesis is inadequate for 90% of the baby population...thanks for the effort,sorry if i do not apply or share this..

Simi
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In my country the pediatrician doesn't let you carry the baby in any sort of carrier or wrap until they are able to sit  up. Otherwise it puts too much pressure on their spine. And honestly I don't really blame some parents carrying for their little ones facing forward because, as we all know they like to explore. My little one always liked to be in the pushchair facing forward. And at the end of the day, the companies who produce this kind of things should put a leaflet in every pack to let all the unexperienced parents know how to carry their child. they have many may years of experience, not like most of us, first time parents!!!!!

JenniferLeeLewin
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I have a sleepy wrap for my last two and its brilliant - I have pretty much always carried in but found recently my daughter was happy in 'hammock' mode so sort of sitting with the wrap support her head, back bum and legs so she could see out she's 8.5 months.   And when she slept I just tucked in her head nice and snug!  She was completely supported!

RachelHumphrey
RachelHumphrey

Thought I agree to the fact that it's not good for baby I don't think it's not good for interaction. I don't think it's good for baby to see mommy all the time, I think it's good for learning about their world to see people walking down the street or around the store. I think there are times when the babies needs (wants) don't need to be met. Eating or rooting isn't missed most mommies know when it's dinner time not by looking at baby but by time or sound of cries. I think one of the things wrong with today's society is babies and children believe a want is a need and expect parents to respond right away. A lot of the violence is based from the same thing, adults throwing tantrums because they're not getting what they want. So aside of all the facing away from parents I think they are correct. All the physical things I figured also. I'm surprised parents can't figure that out on their own. I wouldn't want to sit or hang that way... would you?

NatashaBoss
NatashaBoss

@RachelHumphrey to a baby a want is a need.  That's all they know.

RachelHumphrey
RachelHumphrey

@NatashaBoss @RachelHumphrey  yes to babies a want is a need and we are to teach them what is a want and what is a need and in handing everything to them exactly when they request it is teaching them that wants are needs when they are not. That is why we have so many adults around that are throwing fits when they can have the bigger house or the steak when they are on food stamps. Because they haven't been taught that a meal is what is needed and a house is needed not the more expensive one. When we all grew up we would cry a min when we wanted food because our parents were teaching us that yes we would be fed but we wouldn't die if we weren't fed exactly when we asked for the food.

RachelHumphrey
RachelHumphrey

@NatashaBoss @RachelHumphrey yes not only do I have children I done childcare my entire life. If you don't think I have children than it's you that has no clue. I have two of my own and in the last year i have watched 12 kids. all under the age of 4yrs old.  I have a 10yr old of my own and a 3 1/2 yr old who has Autism. When I brought my son down to be diagnosed my develop-mentalist told me she want to hire me (though she couldn't because I didn't have a degree) I'M raising Adults not children. Apparently everyone (or most everyone) else is raising children to be children mine are going to be adults one day. I'm not saying there isn't a time and place to coddle but it's not every time they want something.

BrandiAndrews
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@RachelHumphrey Babies have nothing but needs, not wants. A baby should be fed before they cry. There are a multitude of cues before it gets to that point. Violence comes from needs not being met and being pushed aside. Children and babies need love and attention. They are small humans desperate for someone to be there for them. A baby is incapable of manipulation, they really do need their moms that much. 


RachelHumphrey
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@BrandiAndrews @RachelHumphrey That's BS. That's what society has taught you. That's why we have so many Co-dependant adults around now is because in the last 15yrs parents have been taught to run to the children every time the complain. Because all their wants are needs.. That's BS. They need food, on a reg. basis that doesn't mean EVERY time they want it. Parents are doing more Entertaining these days than ever before because they are soooo afraid of god forbid there little bundle of joy wimper or hell Cry. That's why typically twins are better adjusted because the parents can't possibly pamper them both at the same time but society is working on that... Babies are totally capable of manipulation... nearly from birth. I do childcare, I see it everyday.

Deb Bean
Deb Bean

@RachelHumphrey You are insane. Do some research on baby brain development, please. They are *incapable* of manipulation, it's a simple fact. They are infants, for crying out loud, with immature brains that can't reason on cause and effect, or scheming, or anything like that. The absolute most important thing for babies during their first two years of life is to learn to *trust* their caregivers. If they feel abandoned (crying hours on end), how will they do that?? Learning to trust their mom is called 'secure attachment'. and THAT, my friend is what studies have shown leads to independent and self-reliant children.
Also, cross-culture studies, societies where babies are routinely coddled, carried, and have all their needs met have more independent and psychologically healthy children. That too is a fact.
So get your facts straight!

GillWindsor
GillWindsor

@BrandiAndrews you are not gods gift to parenting and you have no right at all to call another parent Disgusting, its comments like this that cause arguments ,  id assume that you are an adult and able to act in a mature manner? that comment was not mature, your way isnt the right way nor is mine and neither is joe that lives across the street, its about being the best parent you can be for your child ! i love reading articles like this i like to be informed but i dislike the nasty comments

RachelHumphrey
RachelHumphrey

@AlainaFrederick @RachelHumphrey @brandyleenealseavoy @BrandiAndrews That's exactly what I'm saying, I'm saying that it's wrong I'm saying that you have to deal correctly with it... just because your younger ones slept with you and it worked doesn't automatically mean it would have worked with your older one. But on the same note it doesn't mean that it works for everyone because some just allow the kids to walk all over them. But as a whole I think Generally speaking not sleeping with the parents works for MOST children, where as if not dealt with correctly sleeping with you CAN lead to prob. down the road. 

AlainaFrederick
AlainaFrederick

@RachelHumphrey @AlainaFrederick @brandyleenealseavoy @BrandiAndrews  What I got from the comment was that because I have my kids IN the bed with us that they are going to go up to be dependent, lazy, overweight people. I was trying to say that my kids are NOT. They did spent time IN the bed with us but they grew up to be healthy and independent.

I do know there are other ways. My eldest did not spend any time in the bed with us at all and he is very much a cuddle bug as well.

RachelHumphrey
RachelHumphrey

@AlainaFrederick @brandyleenealseavoy @BrandiAndrews The miss understanding is that since your child grew up this way and it worked means it WOULDN'T have worked any other way. My children have spent I think 2 nights with me in my bed in their lives. My children are Very loving and cuddle bugs. My son says please and thank you and is very polite. I don't in any way associate any of his politeness or anything else like how he eats on because of where he sleeps at night. What you are saying is our children are not loving because we don't love them correctly. (I also don't like the language)

AlainaFrederick
AlainaFrederick

@brandyleenealseavoy @BrandiAndrews Wow the language and the thought that the baby would grow up to be lazy and fat. Really?

My five year old slept in the bed with us for about 10 months then next to the bed for another 8 months before moving to his own room. 

He is very independent and is a loving and caring being. He prefers vegetables over fruit and sugar. Always says "yes mama" "no mama" and will hold the door open for his mommy too.

He was able to be loved in a way he needed loved for first months of his life and is now able to love others in a healthy respectable way. He has his own individual personality and is his own individual person. He is mature beyond his years.

RachelHumphrey
RachelHumphrey

@brandyleenealseavoy @BrandiAndrews  I totally agree with you. I do attend to their NEEDS I don't allow them to manipulate me. Babies are born that way because they don't know the dif. between a need and want at birth. We teach them by responding to needs and not wants quickly. If we respond to wants quickly they learn that that is a need and get mad when we choose not to respond.  Why will a baby scream for a lolly pop... new babies will scream for a lolly pop like it's a need... Why? Because they think everything is a need until we teach otherwise. Coddling isn't good for them OR YOU and the Mommy.

RachelHumphrey
RachelHumphrey

@BrandiAndrews Actually I have two children and one has Autism. His develop mentalist wants to hire me. She says I'm so very right on. I had him diagnosed when he was nearly 3 but I knew when he was 18mo. I am talking about coddling them. If they get hurt the parents pamper them for hours. Than are afraid of the world. My children are very well adjusted. Both are not afraid of the world they trust that I will protect them and wouldn't put them in an unsafe situation because I send them in the world all the time.

brandyleenealseavoy
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@BrandiAndrews  thats not what rachel is saying...she is talking about constant coddling...i hope...my bf now says if we have a baby,the baby will sleep WITH us in our bed for the first year.....HELL NO...my kids are amazing independents that prefer quiet and concentration..coddle your kids and get spoiled rotten lazy fat fuckers spoiled beyond the recognition of normal well balanced INDIVIDUAL minds....go ahead Brandi spelled wrong....create a spoiled brat...just another douche the world has to deal with..boooo


ChrisRucco
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@RachelHumphrey @BrandiAndrews You are so right. Codependency has become an epidemic and people grow up expecting others to respond to their every whim. Lack of independence and doing for ones self starts in early child hood. Those connections in the prefrontal cortex need to be made early.

\Take some one fishing and you will feed them for a day. Teach someone how to fish and you will feed them for a life time. 

BrandiAndrews
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Ugh you are disgusting! I'll continue to meet the needs of my daughters and love on them as they need. You go on being neglectful and treat children like a burden. I hope someone hasn't made the mistake and bred with you and if they have I feel such pity for your children.

AngelaHorn1
AngelaHorn1

I don't think it is impossible to carry a baby front-facing comfortably; it depends on the carrier and the technique, and that is why I feel the article makes some great points but over-generalizes a bit. I wish you had illustrated it with some more photos of front facing carriers used correctly, mot ones that are incorrectly positioned and way too loose.

Before I had my first baby, back in 1998, I read about ergonomic baby carrying - the Wilkinet company used to write about making sure baby's weight was not all taken its pelvic floor. I have since carried 6 children in a variety of carriers, and sometimes they want to look out. It is interesting reading the views on overstimulation because I found that could certainly happen, but also that sometimes my babies would get bored and irritable facing in, usually after 3 months, and they enjoyed an 'exercise' period facing out. they loved the interaction they got from other adults, and with each baby i could see clearly how much of a treat it was to get to look straight out sometimes - like baby gymnastics!

I had trouble making back carrying work safely with babies under 6 months, had a couple of potentially dangerous situations, so decided to leave that till after 6 months. I know many women manage, and there is probably more support now, but back carrying tiny babies is not for everyone. Front facing carrying was a good experience, and *could* be done while still promoting good posture!

For instance, with a tie-on wrap in a non- stretchy, woven fabric, I understood that the fabric should be stretched out under the baby's thighs so that they are lifted and separated, ie baby is in a squatting position, weight taken on its thighs, not on the crossover point under its crotch. The photo accompanying this article shows a very poorly- fitted stretchy wrap, but of course that wrap might have been very comfy for baby if it had been tied differently. Probably harder with stretchy cotton-jersey wraps though. Also if you are using a tie on wrap then to support the mothers back you can wrap horizontally around mother's and baby's middle, again like the photo on this page but it all needs to be much tighter. I used to make this band really wide so it was supporting most of baby's weight and the leg supports were just holding thighs up. Another Alternative is ring sling, baby cross legged, though you do need to keep an arm round baby to stop him toppling forward.

This article suggests better front carrying - what I have used is in pics 3 and 5 : http://www.slingbabies.co.nz/Site/Articles/Forward_Facing_Out_in_a_Baby_Carrier_-_what_you_should_know.ashx . I also used to sit baby sideways in a ring sling - I guess the cradle hold you see here, but would slide baby more upright as he grew older :

http://www.slingeasy.co.uk/acatalog/Wearing_SlingEasy.html

I suppose that doesn't count as a forward facing position, but it worked very well for me even with babies of 6 months and older, and did allow em the choice to snuggle in or look out. However, it was much harder on my back than a symmetrical position, and that's where front facing carries worked well.

Inward- facing positions have served my family well and I have never met a baby who could not enjoy them, maybe after a little practice, *but* babies do get fed up with it sometimes, especially as they get older; sometimes they, turn their heads sideways craning to look round, and arching away, and at that point I often found that front- facing was just what baby wanted at that point. Having focused on listening to my babies, having made a 'religion' of attachment parenting over 6 kids and 15 years, I can say with confidence that my babies often preferred facing out. Listen to the baby, not the textbook ;-)

Re head support and asphyxiation, surely this risk depends so much on age and head control? the degree of head support necessary for a wide-awake 5 month-old is quite different from for a sleepy newborn. I always thought that if the head was dipping at all, baby was too tired to be facing out. The warnings on airway obstruction when the chin falls to the chest are aimed at cradle holds in pouch slings mostly and from what I understand of anatomy I think this would be unlikely in a forward facing position, especially as many front packs donprovide some chin support. Try it yourself - if your back is held upright and then your chin falls to your chest, breathing is a little harder, but if you then allow your spine to slump back, so your back is rounded, it's much harder. A baby in a front facing carry is in the former position, whilst one in a ring or pouch sling is potentially in the latter, if in a cradle hold. So my understanding of the guidance is that it is probably not really applicablemtomthis situation, although of course I may be wrong.

I would like to see more advice on how to make any baby wearing position better. We'd all rather see babies getting carried more rather than bunged in a pram, wouldn't we?

DoNotFaint
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It's a shame that people trying to spread information are being made fun of and shamed. If the doctors here: http://www.hipdysplasia.org/Developmental-Dysplasia-Of-The-Hip/Prevention/Baby-Carriers-Seats-and-Other-Equipment 

can't convince you that it's LESS safe but not the most dangerous harmful thing ever, then just leave it alone. I just can't relate to having a baby "insist" because I was a nanny for a long time before I had a baby of my own, and I've never encountered a baby who didn't like being held in a carrier facing in. If you don't want to hear what the International Hip Dysplasia Institute and the people who believe them are saying, here's an idea: don't read posts like this.

AlainaFrederick
AlainaFrederick

@DoNotFaint Totally agree. There are so many things I did with my older boys that I wish I would have known better. I wish someone would have said hey you know there IS a better option (like doing a back carry instead of FF).

I have four boys and none of my kids have ever "insist" on something because I'm the mother and I found another option. If my child "insist" on cake for breakfast and wouldn't stop crying till they got it - what does that tell them. I'm a pushover and if you whine enough I'll let you do whatever.



digthemlows
digthemlows

Google search "hip displaysia and foward facing carriers" and see all the articles/studies that say it has no relevance. I'm sorry "donotfaint" but your argument doesn't hold water........it's ok though, I'm sure all our kids will be fine..........I'm a proud father of an 18year old son, 16year old daughter, 3 year old daughter, and a 7 month old son............all slept in bed with us, and sleep on thier stomachs, and loved being forward facing..............

Trskms
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There are many, many things in the world that are "less safe," but -- when implemented -- create a lower quality of life, don't fit a family's lifestyle, or impinge on people's freedom. It is "less safe" to go outdoors to play than be kept indoors (at least by some measures). It is "less safe" to fall in love than to close off one's heart from potential hurt. It is "less safe" to go on a swing or a slide than it is to sit by the wall at recess. Life is ALL about making choices. Some of the happiest people in the world are those who live their lives "less safe" than others. Sometimes the benefits to "less safe" far outweigh the potential "hazards." This would be one of those cases.

Far better for the baby to be engaged in the world, content, and with a happy caregiver, than "safer" and miserable.

There is no such thing as perfectly safe, and trying for it will simply make you neurotic and your child a spoiled, unhappy, fearful person.